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Guest Post: THE UN-THOUGHT OF……….Part Three

From Rourke: Part Four and Five will appear next week.

 THE UN-THOUGHT OF Part 3

by D.

 

Weapons

Very complicated and convoluted area we are about to enter here. I will not be able to go in depth in a short article so forgive the omissions. I will try to hit some of the high points. Many of my ideas I will not be able to convey here because of OPSEC and liability concerns, but perhaps I can get you thinking in the right direction to work them out yourself. Try to read between the lines.

Ideally I would like to own a Barrett light .50, I could probably come up with the cash for the weapon, but the prospect of buying ammo for it is daunting.  So, given the reason for wanting one, “stop vehicles and really reach out and touch someone”, The magic word here is “REACH”. As in swords, the one with the longest reaching weapon has the advantage. If they can’t hit you, but you can pummel them at will. You have the high ground. Look at battle rifle caliber .308,or .270WM, stay with readily available calibers and consider reloading for them. Have at least one of these rifles assigned to your best long distance shooter. Equip with at least a quality scope with illuminated reticle and/ or a NVD. Have someone else spot for him remotely with tracers or a laser (warning: they will draw fire). Keep his position secure.

As to the bulk of your rifles, I prefer the .223 platform. I know it, can modify and repair it, parts are plentiful, (be sure to buy a lower receiver parts kit) ammo is relatively cheap, and despite all its bad mouthing, it will put a real hurt on you at combat ranges in the right hands. If you have commonality of equipment in weapons, you will have built in spare parts.

We also carry Glocks though not all in the same caliber, for the same reasons above. Just about all weapons have received rails to mount Holo sights, NVDs, illuminated scopes or at least low light sights; we have a fair collection of these. (The bad guys will not come for you in the daylight, be prepared to fight at night).

Buy a quantity of tracers. Load one in as the number 2 round loaded (It will be the next to last fired. When you see the light, change mags, you will have one in the chamber. Remember: Fire and maneuver!!!) Dedicate a 20 round mag or two, to be used as tracer spotter rounds for other weapons. Otherwise, as cool as they are, do not use them.

I do not like lashed together magazines (throws the weapon off balance) nor do I care for the large .223 90 rounder, although I have one. (You cannot get in a secure prone position with it) I do very much like the newer low profile dual snail drum 100 round C- mags. With a couple of these, a good bipod, muzzle brake, and fire control you can assemble a poor man’s SAW. (A standard AR15 can be configured this way with an old Stoner bipod, Umberger  (now Mikculick) brake (best I have ever seen) detent type pivot pin, Accuwedge, an added butt pad (the collapsible stock may not have the right pull for you) a cheek rest, contoured hand grip with battery storage and either a Holo sight or NVD, slung from either an old M60 sling or the 2 point sliding assault sling). It is now a simple but formidable instrument that has increased utility and accuracy. I have ran running rifle assault courses with this type of system  making center of mass and head shot double taps to the amazement of the RO. You can keep your multi-rail gadgets. They only add weight.

Shotguns: I like the old Winchester 1200 defender pump, before all the plastic parts on the 1300. With the 8 round tube, full Choate stock, an orange extended shell follower to prevent spring collapse, a slotted elevator to clear jams, and cylinder bore. This gun has never gotten the press it deserves, it is available cheap used and can be tricked up with a minimum of fuss. I run a mixed load of #4 buck, 00 buck and slugs. I also plan to test and create a “surprise” loading using the new 1-3/4” buck and slug rounds for those predators that count my 8 rounds off. All of your shotguns should be 12 Ga. A tip for the Mossberg 500 fans: try lying on your left side and shooting under an end table as you watch your empty fall back into the receiver, ask me how I know. When firing shotguns be sure and wear gloves, during my competition years the only time I was burned was by a shotgun.

Consider reloading ammo for all of your calibers and a few others. This is a great way to stock pile the potential for a great deal of ammo at reduced prices.  Insist on a rifle combat load of 200-210 rounds in magazines and additional 140 or so rounds in stripper clips in bandoleers. If you are not familiar with stripper clips and the loading clip, look into them. It is the military’s way of carrying quickly accessible and loadable ammunition. When I zipped 40 rounds into two magazines in front of some DOE guys I once trained, they were flabbergasted. They are simple, cheap and effective.

This has gotten way too long, so I’ll save combat force multipliers and other subjects for continuing parts. Hope this has helped. I am constantly surprised by people’s reactions to simple and what seems to me an obvious solution to problems. Keep thinking out of the box and run a scenario constantly, which is part of your situational awareness.

 

Just some additional gun notes:

The old Ithaca Feather light is the only shotgun made that the trigger can be held back, the slide continuously racked and it will fire every time the bolt goes into battery. It has a four round capacity, but US Navy SEALS in Vietnam extended the tube to eight rounds and added a duck bill shot spreader to the barrel. It was used as a point man’s ambush buster. If you find one of these in the old man’s gun cabinet, don’t dismiss it.

Although I have never had to test it, it has always been my opinion that a good shotgun shooter could overcome someone armed with a sub-gun. Overall more control and more projectiles in the air at any given moment. Here come the arguments.

I once carried a Detonics .45 in an Askins Avenger holster or just used the Brown and Pharr grip clip that will hold it in the small of my back, holster less. (Good luck trying to find one of these, maybe gun shows) I do not care for shoulder holsters and I wore one for many months in Vietnam. I cannot give you a reason, I just don’t like them.

A couple special purpose .22 short Beretta jet fires and/or a Ruger MKII both are reliable for their purpose. The .22 short Jet fire was once used by Mossad with a reduced powder load.

My SKS war trophy has been given a new stock, butt pad and lighted scope configured as a sniper rifle. That’s how it had been used before it went up against a tank flechette round. Indestructible weapon, and I beg to differ, it does have reach, ask some 400 meter pagoda tiles.

Look into air cannons as a force multiplier. It can launch flares, smoke, gas and any other creative rounds you can concoct, as well as shoot a 3” saboted bolt through a car.

Don’t forget your silent weapons: compound bows, crossbows, (don’t forget bolts, arrows and spare strings, and perhaps a bow fishing and fletching kit) swords (remember Eli?) Wrist rocket sling shots and combat knives (I prefer my Gerber MKII, yeah I’m old school). Who knows how long the crunch will last. Think ahead.

For all you movie gunslingers: If no one has told you, Cover is something that will stop incoming fire, concealment is a bush. Both are useful, but don’t confuse them.

Regards, D.

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6 comments to Guest Post: THE UN-THOUGHT OF……….Part Three

  • D.

    Wow…not one comment, and on weapons! Either everyone agrees with me (Not very likely) or just found it boring and repetitive…or there’s a broken link. Can’t believe no one can find fault with the old guys ancient weapons picks. ;) D.

  • Rourke

    D. –

    Maybe everyone knows you are the Jedi Master!

    Rourke

  • D.

    LMAO…John…I sure get some great laughs from this site. Who would’ve thought? (I have actually had a student driver at the race track call me Obeiwan) D.

  • Catherine

    I am still learning about weapons–especially rifles. Already have taken care of handguns and getting a 12 gauge. There is so much info out there and I need to try a few first. You post will be saved and reread. Thank you.

  • D.

    CAT: Be sure and look back thru the past posts, There are many weapons posts on here that will be useful to you. Good luck on your long gun adventure. Regards, D.

  • Borderreiver

    As a Mossberg 500 owner, I’m going to have to try the lying-on-the-left-side trick to be aware of how it doesn’t work. Thanks for the tip. Otherwise as a medium-old timer I agree with most of your post. The idea of military calibers and proven weapons, however carried, is still the best idea IMHO. Hard to beat a 1911. I still agree that since Uncle Sam taught me to use an M16 over 20 years, it is still the best bet for a personal rifle. Easy for my wife to use too. Backed up by a bipoded, and scoped L1A1 we’re good. Thanks for the post.