Welfare. What is the answer?

A popular topic on many of the blogosphere regarding survival and preparedness is the ability to defend yourself and those you love from the ‘golden horde’ in the event of an economic, social, or other type of collapse.  In recent years the silver screen has even portrayed cannibalism as a real possibility in such times.  The answer seems to be to either bug in or bug out with your ample food stores, and then to use your residence as a sort of Alamo.  Of course that didn’t work out to well for defenders of THE Alamo.  As I think about this topic it occurs to me that we are already in this type of situation except the ‘golden horde’ is being kept at bay with another defense.  This defense, however, is rapidly running out of ammunition.


As of September 10, 2013 there are 12.8 Million people on Welfare, 46.7 million people on Food Stamps, and 5.6 million people on Unemployment insurance.  The funny thing is that even though the government is blind to this fact, we the people realize that it can no longer provide for those who either cannot or will not provide for their own needs.  We know that during every disaster, and even some non-disasters, there are those who will take advantage of whatever or whomever they can.  We saw this when the SNAP system went down and people were emptying the local Walmart of food before it came back up.  We see it when there is a natural disaster when people begin hoarding.  We see it when looters and rioters take to the streets as they did in Katrina or the 1991 LA Rodney King riots.  We also know that parents will go to great lengths to provide for their children when desperate.  Yes this includes take by force what you and yours need to survive despite what the needs of person are you are taking from (a.k.a. looting, thievery, robbery, and burglary).   After all, no parent who loves their children can bear to see them starve to death.

The Fed announced that it is going to begin tapering off of the Ponzi scheme known as Quantitative Easing (a.k.a. Monetizing of the debt…a.k.a. buying its own debt) which will mean that money is not going to buy what it used to.   So how will things be if there was no welfare system in place?  Would those who rely on welfare become the ‘golden horde’ we so often talk about preparing to defend against?  When the government finally realizes the futility of the current welfare program, where people are paid to stay home and do nothing, what will happen?    If the government truly did want to help these people, why not offer them an opportunity to work for that which they receive (give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats for life)?  There are some welfare systems out there that actually require the people seeking welfare to be ACTIVELY working to get off welfare before they receive it.  Maybe the government could learn something from these groups.  Why not let them take advantage of the many readily available ‘shovel ready jobs’?  What will become of these “poor and needy” people if welfare were to disappear for all but those who have a legitimate physical impairment which prevents them from working?

I realize that there are those who falsely believe that the “separation of church and state” means that never the twain shall meet.  What would happen though, if the ‘state’ worked with the churches and other humanitarian aid groups to provide for these people?  Maybe even provide a set of guidelines for providing this aid, and let them do the ‘feet on the ground’ welfare service?  I don’t have the answers, but I do have a lot of questions about this.  I do have concerns about a system that does not provide solutions, or enables people to shirk their responsibilities.  I have concerns about what would become of these people if this system were to fail.  Would they become a threat to society?  Would they become a threat to my family?  I don’t know, and uncertainty breeds fear.  I do not store extra supplies for strangers, but wish I could.  I just don’t have the means to do so, and to be honest, I don’t expect others to prepare for me.  I know there are those who feel they deserve to be cared for and I believe they do, TO A POINT.  A family should care for each other, but I believe the family to be the basic building block of our society and the buck really stops there.

We live in a country where our government is paying farmers NOT to farm their land.  We live in a country where people are paid not to work.  We live in a country where achievement is not rewarded.  No, instead the lack of achievement is rewarded, but you can only rob Peter to pay Paul for so long.  We also just happen to live in a country where one’s ability to defend themselves is under attack.  So what do we do?  Do we keep screaming into the wind trying to educate those who have no interest in learning or improving?  Do we prepare to take lives to defend material goods?  Do we run away when trouble comes?  What is the answer?  What is your answer?

– Brad M

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  1. Well, my first inclination is to hunker down and make my place as uninviting as possible.

    Then, if any unknown person or people come onto the property, make sure they know they are risking life and limb.

    I will leave only if compelled to do so under extreme circumstances. The Golden Horde is not now, nor will it ever be, entitled to what I have worked for. When the free money from the government runs out, they are on their own, and I don’t expect them to be so dependent in a very few short weeks. They will either have found suitable employment, or be occupying space in the ground. There are way too many of them to be supported as they have been, without pulling their own weight, living on the work of others.

    Just my two cents.

  2. Brad,

    Welfare for the short term may be a good thing. For the long term it is terribly demeaning and destructive of initiative. He that will not work shall not eat (2 Thes. 3:10). Charity is, and should always be, the domain of the individual and Church, never of the state.

    Water, advice, and directions to points away from me, I have in abundance and will freely share with the peaceful. I stock these things to share with the unprepared. These are my ‘charity.’

    Any adult male who cannot anticipate uncertainties of the future and will not or cannot support his family is no man.


  3. DrSique(A good start would be for the federal government to stop manipulating our economy in favor of the wealthiest 10% of the population through inane trade agreements and non-enforcement of our immigration laws.)No sir, a good start would be a good government elected by the people , for the people.

  4. A good start would be for the federal government to stop manipulating our economy in favor of the wealthiest 10% of the population through inane trade agreements and non-enforcement of our immigration laws. Both of these policies depress wages for tens of millions of Americans. QE 1&2 and farm bills, etc. are all seperate and equally dangerous. The clock is ticking folks, continue preperations.

  5. DrSique, I tend to agree with you. “A government with the policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul.” -GB Shaw;

    It’s gotten to the point that our government now robs Peter to pay for the deck hands on Paul’s yacht. Few understand how the government manipulates the price of corn, and how that manipulation effects everything from the prices for the food products we buy to the fuel we use. How the masses would panic if there was ever a hint of what would happen should these subsidies end. Neither do most realize how “Big Farma”, Walmart and all the grocery store chains use the SNAP program to bolster the bottom line for massive profits.

    Its all become a shell game…

  6. In an economic collapse, which I believe is inevitable, the government will be desperate to maintain some sort of control. They will cut off payments for military pensions, VA Disabilities, Social Security and Welfare. Those who bilked the Welfare system for decades will riot, loot and steal everything they can. Barry knows this. That’s why the Department Of Homeland Security is buying armored vehicles, automatic weapons and 3 billion rounds of hollow point ammunition. Get ready folks!

  7. DrSique,

    My family is in the top 5% US income wise. We pay more than 55% of our total income income to a combination of federal, state, and county taxes. For one, I’m tired of supporting those who will not work and tired of supporting a bloated government that provides resources that I do not want and do not need. I fail to see how things are manipulated in my favor. Please explain your comment to me.

    By the by, we have never nor ever intend to, accept any so called ‘farm aid.’ I highly recommend, THE TIME IT NEVER RAINED, to any one contemplating ‘farm aid.’ See: http://www.amazon.com/Time-Never-Rained-Elmer-Kelton-ebook/dp/B003B0W234/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1404782547&sr=8-1&keywords=the+time+it+never+rained, an Amazon 5 star rated book.


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