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Concerning…..The latest from “DHS Insider”

 The following article was originally published on December 27th, 2012 over at Canada Free Press. This article is being republished with permission. The original article can be viewed following this link – http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/print-friendly/52005

Special thanks to Irish-7, Editor-at-Large, for making me aware of the article.

Read the following information. I would like for you to comment and share your thoughts.

– Rourke

 

The latest from “DHS Insider”

By Doug Hagmann

 

Introduction: After a lengthy, self-imposed informational black-out, my high-level DHS contact known as “Rosebud” emerged with new, non-public information about plans being discussed and prepared for implementation by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) in the near future. It is important to note that this black-out was directly related to the aggressive federal initiative of identifying and prosecuting “leakers,” at least those leaks and leakers not sanctioned by the executive office—the latter of which there are many.

Due to those circumstances, my source exercised an abundance of caution to avoid compromising a valuable line of communication until he had information he felt wassignificant enough to risk external contact. The following information is the result of an in-person contact between this author and “Rosebud” within the last 48 hours. With his permission, the interview was digitally recorded and the relevant portions of the contact are provided in a conversational format for easier reading. The original recording was copied onto multiple discs and are maintained in secure locations for historical and insurance purposes.

Meeting: The following began after an exchange of pleasantries and other unrelated discussion:

DH: Do I have your permission to record this conversation?

RB: You do.

DH: I’ve received a lot of e-mail from people wondering where you went and why you’ve been so quiet.

RB: As I told you earlier, things are very dicey. Weird things began to happen before the election and have continued since. Odd things, a clampdown of sorts. I started looking and I found [REDACTED AT THE REQUEST OF THIS SOURCE], and that shook me up. I’m not the only one, though, that found a [REDACTED], so this means there’s surveillance of people within DHS by DHS. So, that explains this cloak and dagger stuff for this meeting.

DH: I understand. What about the others?

RB: They are handling it the same way.

DH: I’ve received many e-mails asking if you are the same person giving information to Ulsterman. Are you?

RB: No, but I think I know at least one of his insiders.

DH: Care to elaborate?

RB: Sorry, no.

DH: Do you trust him or her. I mean, the Ulsterman source?

RB: Yes.

DH: Okay, so last August, you said things were “going hot.” I printed what you said, and things did not seem to happen as you said.

RB: You’d better recheck your notes and compare [them] with some of the events leading up to the election. I think you’ll find that a full blown campaign of deception took place to make certain Obama got back into office. The polls, the media, and a few incidents that happened in the two months before the election. I guess if people are looking for some big event they can point to and say “aha” for verification, well then I overestimated people’s ability to tell when they are being lied to.

DH: What specific incidents are you referring to?

RB: Look at the threats to Obama. Start there. The accusations of racism. Then look at the polls, and especially the judicial decisions about voter ID laws. Bought and paid for, or where there was any potential for problems, the judges got the message, loud and clear. Then look at the voter fraud. And not a peep from the Republicans. Nothing. His second term was a done deal in September. This was planned. Frankly, the Obama team knew they had it sewn up long before Election Day. Benghazi could have derailed them, but the fix was in there, so I never saw anything on my end to suggest a ready-made solution had to be implemented.

DH: What’s going on now?

RB: People better pay close attention over the next few months. First, there won’t be any meaningful deal about the fiscal crisis. This is planned, I mean, the lack of deal is planned. In fact, it’s necessary to pave the way for what is in the short term agenda.

DH: Wait, you’re DHS—not some Wall Street insider.

RB: So you think they are separate agendas? That’s funny. The coming collapse of the U.S. dollar is a done deal. It’s been in the works for years—decades, and this is one of the most important cataclysmic events that DHS is preparing for. I almost think that DHS was created for that purpose alone, to fight Americans, not protect them, right here in America. But that’s not the only reason. There’s the gun issue too.

DH: So, what are you seeing at DHS?

RB: We don’t have a lot of time, tonight—our meeting—as well as a country. I mean I have heard—with my own ears—plans being made that originate from the White House that involve the hierarchy of DHS. You gotta know how DHS works at the highest of levels. It’s Jarrett and Napolitano, with Jarrett organizing all of the plans and approaches. She’s the one in charge, at least from my point of view, from what I am seeing. Obama knows that’s going on and has say, but it seems that Jarrett has the final say, not the other way around. It’s [screwed] up. This really went into high gear since the election.

But it’s a train wreck at mid management, but is more effective at the lower levels. A lot of police departments are being gifted with federal funds with strings attached. That money is flowing out to municipal police departments faster than it can be counted. They are using his money to buy tanks, well, not real tanks, but you know what I mean. DHS is turning the police into soldiers.

By the way, there has been a lot of communication recently between Napolitano and Pistole [TSA head]. They are planning to use TSA agents in tandem with local police for certain operations that are being planned right now. This is so [deleted] important that you cannot even begin to imagine. If you get nothing else out of this, please, please make sure you tell people to watch the TSA and their increasing involvement against the American public. They are the stooges who will be the ones to carry out certain plans when the dollar collapses and the gun confiscation begins.

DH: Whoa, wait a minute. You just said a mouthful. What’s the agenda here?

RB: Your intelligence insider—he knows that we are facing a planned economic collapse. You wrote about this in your articles about Benghazi, or at least that’s what I got out of the later articles. So why the surprise?

DH: There’s a lot here. Let’s take it step by step if you don’t mind.

RB: Okay, but I’m not going to give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps. This is what I am hearing. Life for the average American is going to change significantly, and not the change people expect. First, DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA to respond to civil uprisings that will happen when there is a financial panic. And there will be one, maybe as early as this spring, when the dollar won’t get you a gumball. I’m not sure what the catalyst will be, but I’ve heard rumblings about a derivatives crisis as well as an oil embargo. I don’t know, that’s not my department. But something is going to happen to collapse the dollar, which has been in the works since the 1990s. Now if it does not happen as soon as this, it’s because there are people, real patriots, who are working to prevent this, so it’s a fluid dynamic. But that doesn’t change the preparations.

And the preparations are these: DHS is prepositioning assets in strategic areas near urban centers all across the country. Storage depots. Armories. And even detainment facilities, known as FEMA camps. FEMA does not even know that the facilities are earmarked for detainment by executive orders, at least not in the traditional sense they were intended. By the way, people drive by some of these armories every day without even giving them a second look. Commercial and business real estate across the country are being bought up or leased for storage purposes. Very low profile.

Anyway, I am hearing that the plan from on high is to let the chaos play out for a while, making ordinary citizens beg for troops to be deployed to restore order. but it’s all organized to make them appear as good guys. That’s when the real head knocking will take place. We’re talking travel restrictions, which should not be a problem because gas will be rationed or unavailable. The TSA will be in charge of travel, or at least be a big part of it. They will be commissioned, upgraded from their current status.

They, I mean Jarrett and Obama as well as a few others in government, are working to create a perfect storm too. This is being timed to coincide with new gun laws.

DH: New federal gun laws?

RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources. Plans were made in the ‘90s but were withheld. Now, it’s a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook, which, by the way as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, you’ll be called a kook or worse.

DH: Sure

RB: But Sandy Hook, there’s something very wrong there. But I am hearing that won’t be the final straw. There will be another if they think it’s necessary.

DH: Another shooting?

RB: Yes.

DH: That would mean they are at least complicit.

RB: Well, that’s one way of looking at it.

DH: Are they? Were they?

RB: Do your own research. Nothing I say, short of bringing you photographs and documents will convince anyone, and even then, it’s like [DELETED] in the wind.

DH: So…

RB: So what I’m telling you is that DHS, the TSA and certain, but not all, law enforcement agencies are going to be elbow deep in riot control in response to an economic incident. At the same time or close to it, gun confiscation will start. It will start on a voluntary basis using federal registration forms, then an amnesty, then the kicking-in of doors start.

Before or at the same time, you know all the talk of lists, you know, the red and blue lists that everyone made fun of? Well they exist, although I don’t know about their colors. But there are lists of political dissidents maintained by DHS. Names are coordinated with the executive branch, but you know what? They did not start with Obama. They’ve been around in one form or another for years. The difference though is that today, they are much more organized. And I’ll tell you that the vocal opponents of the politics of the global elite, the bankers, and the opponents of anything standing in their way, well, they are on the top of the list of people to be handled.

DH: Handled?

RB: As the situations worsen, some might be given a chance to stop their vocal opposition. Some will, others won’t. I suppose they are on different lists. Others won’t have that chance. By that time, though, it will be chaos and people will be in full defensive mode. They will be hungry, real hunger like we’ve never experienced before. They will use our hunger as leverage. They will use medical care as leverage.

DH: Will this happen all at once?

RB: They hope to make it happen at the same time. Big cities first, with sections being set apart from the rest of the country. Then the rural areas. There are two different plans for geographical considerations. But it will all come together.

DH: Wait, this sounds way, way over the top. Are you telling me… [Interrupts]

RB: [Over talk/Unintelligible] …know who was selected or elected twice now. You know who his associates are. And you are saying this is way over the top? Don’t forget what Ayers said – you talked to Larry Grathwohl. This guy is a revolutionary. He does not want to transform our country in the traditional sense. He will destroy it. And he’s not working alone. He’s not working for himself, either. He has his handlers. So don’t think this is going to be a walk in the park, with some type of attempt to rescue the country. Cloward-Piven. Alinsky. Marx. All rolled into one. And he won’t need the rest of his four years to do it.

DH: I need you to be clear. Let’s go back again, I mean, to those who speak out about what’s happening.

RB: [Edit note: Obviously irritated] How much clearer do you want it? The Second Amendment will be gone, along with the first, at least practically or operationally. The Constitution will be gone, suspended, at least in an operational sense. Maybe they won’t actually say that they are suspending it, but will do it. Like saying the sky is purple when it’s actually blue. How many people will look at the sky and say yeah, it’s purple? They see what they want to see.

So the DHS, working with other law enforcement organizations, especially the TSA as it stands right now, will oversee the confiscation of assault weapons, which includes all semi-automatic weapons following a period of so-called amnesty. It also includes shotguns that hold multiple rounds, or have pistol grips. They will go after the high capacity magazines, anything over, say 5 rounds.

They will also go after the ammunition, especially at the manufacturer’s level. They will require a special license for certain weapons, and make it impossible to own anything. More draconian than England. This is a global thing too. Want to hunt? What gives you the right to hunt their animals? Sound strange? I hope so, but they believe they own the animals. Do you understand now, how sick and twisted this is? Their mentality?

The obvious intent is to disarm American citizens. They will say that we’ll still be able to defend ourselves and go hunting, but even that will be severely regulated. This is the part that they are still working out, though. While the plans were made years ago, there is some argument over the exact details. I know that Napalitano, even with her support of the agenda, would like to see this take place outside of an E.O. [Executive Order] in favor of legislative action and even with UN involvement.

DH: But UN involvement would still require legislative approval.

RB: Yes, but you’re still thinking normal – in normal terms. Stop thinking about a normal situation. The country is divided, which is exactly where Obama wants us to be. We are as ideologically divided as we were during the Civil War and that rift is growing every day. Add in a crisis – and economic crisis – where ATM and EBT cards will stop working. Where bank accounts will contain nothing but air. They are anticipating a revolution and a civil war rolled into one (emphasis added by this author).

Imagine when talk show hosts or Bloggers or some other malcontent gets on the air or starts writing about the injustice of it all, and about how Obama is the anti-Christ or something. They will outlaw such talk or writing as inciting the situation – they will make it illegal by saying that it is causing people to die. The Republicans will go along with everything as it’s – we have – a one party system. Two parties is an illusion. It’s all so surreal to talk about but you see where this is headed, right?

DH: Well, what about the lists?

RB: Back to that again, okay. Why do you think the NSA has surveillance of all communications? To identify and stop terrorism? Okay, to be fair, that is part of it, but not the main reason. The federal agencies have identified people who present a danger to them and their agendas. I don’t know if they are color coded like you mentioned, red, blue, purple or peach mango or whatever, but they exist. In fact, each agency has their own. You know, why is it so [deleted] hard for people to get their heads around the existence of lists with names of people who pose a threat to their plans? The media made a big deal about Nixon’s enemies list and everyone nodded and said yeah, that [deleted], but today? They’ve been around for years and years.

DH: I think it’s because of the nature of the lists today. What do they plan to do with their enemies?

RB: Go back to what Ayers said when, in the late ‘60s? ‘70s? I forget. Anyway, he was serious. But to some extent, the same thing that happened before. They – the people on some of these lists – are under surveillance, or at least some, and when necessary, some are approached and made an offer. Others, well, they can be made to undergo certain training. Let’s call it sensitivity training, except on a much different level. Others, most that are the most visible and mainstream are safe for the most part. And do you want to know why? It’s because they are in the pockets of the very people we are talking about, but they might or might not know it. Corporate sponsorship – follow the money. You know the drill. You saw it happen before, with the birth certificate.

It’s people that are just under the national radar but are effective. They have to worry. Those who have been publicly marginalized already but continue to talk or write or post, they are in trouble. It’s people who won’t sell out, who think that they can make a difference. Those are the people who have to worry.

Think about recent deaths that everybody believes were natural or suicides. Were they? People are too busy working their [butts] off to put food on the table to give a damn about some guy somewhere who vapor locks because of too many doughnuts and coffee and late nights. And it seems plausible enough to happen. This time, when everything collapses, do you think they will care if it is a bullet or a heart attack that takes out the opposition? [Deleted] no.

DH: That’s disturbing. Do you… [interrupts]

RB: Think about the Oklahoma City bombing in ‘95. Remember how Clinton blamed that on talk radio, or at least in part. Take what happened then and put it in context of today. Then multiply the damnation by 100, and you will begin to understand where this is going. People like Rush and Hannity have a narrow focus of the political theater. They’ll still be up and running during all of this to allow for the appearance of normal. Stay within the script, comrade.

But as far as the others, they have certain plans. And these plans are becoming more transparent. They are getting bolder. They are pushing lies, and the bigger the lie, the easier it is to sell to the people. They will even try to sell a sense of normalcy as things go absolutely crazy and break down. It will be surreal. And some will believe it, think that it’s only happening in certain places, and we can draw everything back once the dust settles. But when it does, this place will not be the same.

DH: Will there be resistance within the ranks of law enforcement? You know, will some say they won’t go along with the plan, like the Oath Keepers?

RB: Absolutely. But they will not only be outnumbered, but outgunned – literally. The whole objective is to bring in outside forces to deal with the civil unrest that will happen in America. And where does their allegiance lie? Certainly not to Sheriff Bob. Or you or me.

During all of this, and you’ve got to remember that the dollar collapse is a big part of this, our country is going to have to be redone. I’ve seen – personally – a map of North America without borders. Done this year. The number 2015 was written across the top, and I believe that was meant as a year. Along with this map – in the same area where this was – was another map showing the United States cut up into sectors. I’m not talking about what people have seen on the internet, but something entirely different. Zones. And a big star on the city of Denver.

Sound like conspiracy stuff on the Internet? Yup. But maybe they were right. It sure looks that way. It will read that way if you decide to write about this. Good luck with that. Anyway, the country seemed to be split into sectors, but not the kind shown on the internet. Different.

DH: What is the context of that?

RB: Across the bottom of this was written economic sectors. It looked like a work in progress, so I can’t tell you any more than that. From the context I think it has to do with the collapse of the dollar.

DH: Why would DHS have this? I mean, it seems almost contrived, doesn’t it?

RB: Not really, when you consider the bigger picture. But wait before we go off into that part. I need to tell you about Obamacare, you know, the new health care coming up. It plays a big part – a huge [deleted] part in the immediate reshaping of things.

DH: How so?

RB: It creates a mechanism of centralized control over people. That’s the intent of this monster of a bill, not affordable health care. And it will be used to identify gun owners. Think your health records are private? Have you been to the doctor lately? Asked about owning a gun? Why do you think they ask, do you think they care about your safety? Say yes to owning a gun and your information is shared with another agency, and ultimately, you will be identified as a security risk. The records will be matched with other agencies.

You think that they are simply relying on gun registration forms? This is part of data collection that people don’t get. Oh, and don’t even think about getting a script for some mood enhancement drug and being able to own a gun.

Ayers and Dohrn are having the times of their lives seeing things they’ve worked for all of their adult lives actually coming to pass. Oh, before I forget, look at the recent White House visitor logs.

DH: Why? Where did that come from?

RB: Unless they are redacted, you will see the influence of Ayers. Right now. The Weather Underground has been reborn. So has their agenda.

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down – hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

DH: How soon do you see things taking place?

RB: They already are in motion. If you’re looking for a date I can’t tell you. Remember, the objectives are the same, but plans, well, they adapt. They exploit. Watch how this fiscal cliff thing plays out. This is the run-up to the next big economic event.

I can’t give you a date. I can tell you to watch things this spring. Start with the inauguration and go from there. Watch the metals, when they dip. It will be a good indication that things are about to happen. I got that little tidbit from my friend at [REDACTED].

NOTE: At this point, my contact asked me to reserve further disclosures until after the inauguration.

24 comments to Concerning…..The latest from “DHS Insider”

  • hunter

    wow wow wow. there is going to be a special place in hell for these kind of people. this is unbieleveable i have 1 child with one on the way. I do not want these people in control of my kids. There are plans in motion though. TRUE americans will not sit by and let this happen. This scares the crap out of me

  • Mattie

    SGTbull07 has a 2part interview posted on Youtube regarding inconsistencies related to Sandy Hook. Check it out!

  • kevin

    if this true we are SCREWED

  • cbankr22

    Well I was waiting on someone else to comment first, but that didnt happen… so here goes.

    I’m gonna call bs. I mean, don’t get me wrong… I totally think big brother is very capable of doing some of these things, all behind our backs (or in our face) and chalk it all up as “helping the people” etc… But the more I read, the more my mouth and eyes made their shape to my smart ass way of looking at someone who has totally fell off their wheels. All of the stuff he talks about have been things conspiracy theorists have discussed for years. Denver being the “next Capital”, economic sectors… did this guy just watch Hunger Games or what? I could ramble on and on about what this one person says is coming but lets get real. The govt can do this or do that, they can run the media behind the scenes, they can make gas prices go up and down, they can do many, many other things but I do not think there will be a complete gov’t take over.

    Before it ever gets to that point I believe the majority of this nation would put a stop to it. Close to 70% of the US polulation is part of the working class, middle class, and upper middle class. The same percentage is between the ages of 16-65. There are more of “us” than “them” so if it comes down to complete stripping of rights, the 70% will not allow this.

    That’s what I think anyways… who really knows, right?

  • CaptTurbo

    Scary stuff!

  • Shawn

    I already saw this on Ol Remus and the Woodpile report, quoting : Note from Remus – This article has been reviewed by trusted and knowledgeable friends of Woodpile Report who are familiar with the issues and players involved. The consensus is that it’s overreaching, echoes information and analysis published elsewhere, and that “Rosebud” is not who he purports to be.
    I think Remus has it right….

  • Ed

    Interesting – not much one can do about it , if true. If not true – at least
    a fun thing to read.

  • KDS9601

    This is definitely scary stuff!

  • GoneWithTheWind

    I believe this is phony. I don’t know if there is really a “deep throat” who is the phony or if it’s all made up and ther is no supposed DHS informant. I think the motive is to put out there what this guy thinks is going on and/or to simply disinform. If I had $100 for each false story that has been posted and blogged in the last 10 years I would have all the money in the world. This prediction, like all the other predictions, will be forgotten in the spring when nothing comes true. It’s only value is the juicy story that can be told now. Not to say I am not concerned about Obama, the different officials he has appointed and our suicidal congress. But I’m not buying this story.

  • John

    Back in the 1990’s a booklet published called Operation Vampire Killer 2000, some of the scenerios were quite similar to the above. I believe you can still find copies on line, scary. I think I’ll have to look into the Oathkeepers, John.

  • Jim

    This seems a little too close to the story line of 299 Days, which is fiction, though plausible fiction. I sent the article to a Canadian friend to get his take on it, since it was published by CFP.

  • BigDan

    This is scary! Part of me wants this to be fiction,but my gut says not to be leave that. Could our government be that evil?

  • SPRBAD

    Last year I saw pictures of, and read about DHS acquiring 2500 black, armored vehicles. They say police/rescue on them to appear less scary. I can’t help but wonder what context these would be used in. Supposedly they are being staged near urban ares throughout the country. Again, this was last year already. Pre-planning?

  • Rourke

    BigDan –

    I feel the same way you do.

    Rourke

  • Rourke

    cbankr22 –

    I hope your right.

    Rourke

  • John Gault

    I’m afraid I have to agree with some of the comments doubting this, why, because the the whole thing is a dump-truck load of bovine excrement! We are gifted -perhaps by God- with the ability to reason, and reasoning through this interview (and not nearly the 1st -insider- interview I’ve read) leads logic from doubtful, to implausible, to impossible to delusional. This is the same vague, fear inducing info countless others have pitched before. I could go through a never ending list of invocations and supplications showing why, but it’s late. There are enough REAL AND LIFE CHANGING threats from Fedgov, we need not step into the dreams of the conspiracy pimps.

    For future reference, stay away from anything put forth by Doug Hagmann and his -Northeast Intelligence Network-, anything from Ulsterman, and most stuff from Alex Jones.

  • There may be a tad of truth (with a small t ) .However there are many GOOD people doing good and striving for TRUTH. It is imperative that we protect all of our Constitutional rights (educating our youngsters about them
    and ourselves and ACTING on this- letters, phone calls, to Congress etc.
    My question is WHY would the President want to see this happen? Having millions of people starving in Fema camps for what purpose? We must be well read and prepared for any emergency .Please pray also and communicate with your neighbors and friends and join your local emergency volunteers(this will help you get a close up look at what is being planned for emergencies) First responder inf.
    Having friends and relatives on SI and Sandy Hook etc. please know that this people are hurting and homeless.Our upstate area is still reeling and trying to rebuild after Hurricane Irene and that was much milder than
    Superstorm Sandy.
    Thanks to you all and to you ROURKE .Arlene

  • Rourke

    Thanks Arlene.

    Rourke

  • Catherine

    I read this before, and my reaction was the same as now–scary to contemplate, and highly possible. If you have read any of the “training” that our leader and his cohorts have had, you have to know that their ultimate goal is total control of this country. If it takes too long to do it quietly, I am sure they will find a way to speed things up.

  • Irish-7

    Although I have some reservations about some of things this supposed DHS informant stated, I think it would be very foolish to ignore the potential for something similar to play out. Very much of what he talked about is no secret: economic chaos, currency devaluation, gun control, expansion of DHS/TSA, militarization of local police departments, election fraud, media manipulation of information, NSA evesdropping with drones, etc, etc. I could go on for another paragraph. This stuff is right in our face! Look at who we are dealing with here. Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Jarrett, Holder, Pelosi and company don’t hide their hatred for Capitalistic America. Listen to what they say. More importantly, watch what they do. I have said for years that Obama wants financial collapse. He and his handlers can then say “See, Capitalism does not work. The evil rich did this to you. We (the government) will provide for you and protect you”. Hey, I don’t want to believe it either! When I e-mailed this article to Rourke, I called this “the scariest thing I ever read”. I think it would be naive to ignore everything that this guy said. Again, many of these issues are in the open. After all, we are preparing for crisis or disaster or whatever. Right?

  • Leonard

    John Gault: Why DID DHS order 1.6 BILLION rounds of mostly hollowpoint ammo?

  • John Gault

    Leonard, you ask a fair question. Fedgov is paranoid, Their actions don’t always show paranoia, but their re-actions to almost any crisis almost always do. And lately they operate from crisis to crisis. Their responses often cause mass head scratching, at least to those of us who can see through the thinly veiled facade of their deeds. Does Fedgov prepare for massive social conflict… yes, do they -driven by fear- prepare to shutter revolt and revolution …. again…. yes. But to believe the conspiracy you would have to believe that the same incompetence that brought us ‘Benghazi’, ‘Fast and Furious’ and a dozen lesser known scandals, The same clueless, paper weighted social engineers of utopia who showed us their lack of competence in their response to Sandy could somehow plan the rather quick and shadowy destruction of the American way with little resistance and no believable leaks.
    Think about it, if you … as an insider…. gleamed knowledge of such a plan, would you turn to a fringe conspiracy pimp like Doug Hagmann , -and mind you- do it with NO corroborating evidence, NO paperwork, NO electronic fingerprints, and gee…. with no one else who shares your -“Rosebud’s”- concerns for your country. I could go on and on, why initiate destruction when any with 2 brain cells to rub together can see it’s already coming. Why cause a civil war when victory is already at hand. I understand the desire to believe these conspiracies, NDAA, the surveillance state expanding, and lets be honest, things haven’t been going to good for us Constitutionalist patriots lately. Once we were the majority.. now … the media debates whether to give us -hate group- status. But reality governs them as well as us….. there’s no escaping it…… and reality’s not going to be kind to our enemies.

  • Irish-thanks. One reason some of this may be true is that the powers that be know we are in for a solar storm or a huge drought ,economic collapse etc. and know they wont be able to feed the masses. (310 million of us)
    Citizens own 210 million known guns. Thanks 100 million left w/o defenses.
    Arlene

  • Irish-7

    A few final thoughts, then I’ll drop the whole discussion. John Gault recommends staying away from several “conspiracy pimps”. I admit, I don’t know any of these guys and consequently, I am not familiar with their material. Perhaps they have been releasing similar false flags for years. I stumbled upon an Alex Jones interview on YouTube once and after listening to him praise Oliver Stone (whom I abhor), I closed out of the video. I e-mailed this article to Rourke to ask what he thought of it. He elected to post it on ModernSurvivalOnline. GOD BLESS HIM FOR HIS COURAGE! After reading today’s article about Patriot Rising shutting down, I get the feeling that his friend Zoomie hit a nerve somewhere. I agree that the government has displayed ineptitude in handling many crisis and disaster situations. I do not see this as setting any precedence with respect to enacting Martial Law. I think the Socialists in power do plan on massive resistance. That’s why they are expanding DHS with military equipment, buying so many bullets and trying to disarm the people now. I am not really a “conspiracy theory” advocate. In a few minutes on the internet, you can find any number of evil groups trying to take over the world: The Federal Reserve, the Illuminati (Freemasons), Islamic Fundamentalists, corporate America, the British, the Jews and on and on. Of all these groups, I distrust the Communists the most. Maybe because of multiple dealings/ encounters/ conflicts during my lengthy career in the Army. Obama is of this mold. He has fulfilled all of the predictions that I made in January 2009. I fear the worst is yet to come. Anyway, thanks for all the input! John Gault, I am inspired by your confidence that “reality will not be kind to our enemies”.