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More on gun control….and Harry speaks words of wisdom

In response to my recent post related to the terrible events in Connecticut, frequent reader and sometimes writer “Harry” left a comment I wanted to share with everyone. Feel free to go back and read the original post HERE to understand the context.

Here is what Harry had to say:

 

At least here in Texas we have some (not all, or even most) school districts who recognize that they are the guardians of the children. They either have armed security on campus (either district police or local LE who are working an extra job) or they allow (and in some cases even pay extra) the teachers and administrators to carry concealed firearms.

Nothing can excuse a coward who shoots 5 and 6 year old children before killing his own sorry ass. I have to admit that I am not a spiritual person, but there really should be a special purgatory for this slimeball.

The following is taken from the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime:

In 2008-2010 the USA averaged 9.2 firearm related deaths per 100,000 residents. In spite of the 2nd Amendment, several states and cities have onerous laws regulating the ownership, transfer, and carry of personal firearms.

In 2010 Panama averaged 12.92 firearm related deaths per 100,000 residents. Panamanians are allowed to own a wide variety of firearms and ammunition (full auto, silencers, and armor piercing are prohibited). In order to purchase a firearm a urine and blood sample are required (to prove you are not on drugs and provide the feds with a DNA sample) and the wait to receive permission for the purchase can be 8 to 10 weeks.

In 2010 Switzerland averaged 3.5 firearm related deaths per 100,000 residents. Note that Switzerland requires all males between 19 and 34 to keep their government issued battle rifle (fully automatic as oppossed to the semi-auto versions US civilians have access to) at their home.

In 2009 Israel had 1.86 firearm related deaths per 100,000 residents. Note that Israel conscripts every citizen (male and female) at the age of 17 (some are deferred, but with few exceptions all serve at some point) and Israelis remain on reserve until they are 49. Every Israeli who has been through military training and who is under tha age of 49 is issued and required to annually qualify with a Galil or Tavor and to keep is readily available. Many Israelis carry their personal weapon with them as they go about their day to day activities.

So what’s the point? It seems apparent that countries who issue their citizens fully automatic battle rifles and allow them to keep them in their homes or on their person have substantially lower firearm related deaths than countries which have restrictive firearm regulations.

Seriously, would Aurora, Virginia Tech, Columbine, or Sandy Hook have happened if the perps knew that someone, maybe several someones, would be armed and ready to defend themselves with deadly force?

Please note the manner in which several retailers who previously sold AR and AK style firearms have responded to the vitriol spewed forth by Feinstein and others – make certain you are spending your money with those who support our rights rather than with those who cave in at the first hint of criticism.

 

I cannot agree with Harry more. After reading his comment – I discovered that I had more to  say on the matter – so here I go:

 

The governmental, media, and civilian response to the shooting will be highly ineffective and misdirected. Just as the country is failing in so many moral, economic, and social ways – our leaders do not have the guts to stand up and take serious action which MAY lead to a reduction of these kinds of horrible crimes.

 

Harry is right on when he states the number of firearm related deaths in other countries as being lower although the access and presence of firearms is greater. Why is this? I am no social psychologist – but the fabric of our American culture has deteriorated to a point that human life just means less than in some other countries. Maybe it’s that religion is not as present in peoples lives like in the past. I grew up having prayer in school, the Pledge of Allegiance, and watching Billy Graham on TV every so often. I was well aware that there was a higher power that I was accountable to. Today our youth, as well as adults – are being groomed with the likes of Jersey Shore and Honey Boo Boo. Violent video games? I am sure they have some effect in a desensitizing way, however I would submit that the effect of these games on a normal child is nil. I used to play cowboys and Indians and secret agent firing cap guns at friends and turned out OK. Well……

 

My point is that possibly the degrading societal “quality” in this country has led to many of the problems we have – including high divorce rates, children born out of wedlock, drug usage, high school drop outs, and yes…..mass shootings. If the vast majority of people today went to church, was brought up in a loving household with two parents, and watched The Andy Griffith Show, Leave It To Beaver and Eight is Enough – there would be less crime, less drug use, less divorce, etc.
Maybe I am wrong.

 

Now – what needs to be done. Wow! THAT is a tough one. Right off the bat I have to go to our kids. Parents need to do a better job. As far as immediate reactions when it comes to protecting our kids – let me ask this question:

 

“Why are many of our manufacturing plants, businesses, office buildings, warehouses, and banks more important than our children?”

 

“What?!?” – you say. Yes. Many of the places I have listed above have something that the vast majority of our school do not have – security guards. Many businesses look at risk versus reward and work into their budget security guards to react and protect their investment. That security guard is there in case of crime – or maybe something else like a fire. How about our investment? How about our children?

 

It is a real shame that something like this is needed – but it is. Things are not going to get better overnight. In fact – I suspect it will get much, much worse.

 

Well -that’s my two cents. It’s probably worth what you paid for it.

 

Take care all – 

 

Rourke

 

11 comments to More on gun control….and Harry speaks words of wisdom

  • LC

    I agree with both you and Harry. These knee jerk reactions our government has are usually overboard and wrong. They add new laws but do nothing to enforce the ones we already have. How will disarming law abiding citizens help? Enforcing and maximizing the penalties of our current laws on criminals would help. As for someone with a mental defect – protecting our children with either armed teachers or more campus security is the only way to go. All we will do by disarming law abiding citizens is give these guys more gun free zones to go to. People are much more aware of their actions when they know they guy standing next to them may be armed.

    Additionally, our societal morals and ethics have change too much. When people do not care whether they are buying stolen property or not – so long as they didn’t steal it themselves – and think there behavior is okay we have a problem ( I had this conversation with a customer recently ). If you think it was stolen and you buy it you are aiding and abetting the crime. That makes you a criminal as well. How about simply holding the door open for a woman or saying thank you. All things which make for a polite and decent society.

  • Harry

    Now I know why the CBP helicopter was flying low and slow over my place this morning – gee, thanks Rourke.

    I would put the problem square on the educators insistence that discipline be restricted to time out and the theory that every one wins all the time. When I was in school and acted up I got a flat board applied to my seat of knowledge at some considerable velocity. Even in high school where paddling was no longer an accepted punishment pissing off the little old maid algebra teacher was certain to draw the attention of one of the coaches – all of whom were large and perpetually eager to make one’s life miserable. This generated a respect for authority that, in my opinion, time out and twelve step anger management doesn’t provide.

    Further, we tried out for football and track while the girls tried out for cheer and drill team. No one was guaranteed a spot. If you were weak and clumsy you got to be the water boy – sorry for your self esteem, but the real athletes played and the wimps didn’t. If the girl was fat or unpopular she didn’t get to wear the itty bitty cheer uniform and dance on the side lines – again, sorry for dashing your hopes, but not every one wins. As mean and uncouth as that approach sounds it truly prepared our generation for the real world. Athletes won trophies, pretty girls won athletes, and the occaisional geek started a Dot Com money laundering powerhouse.

    I am certain a lot of brain power and expensive research time went into the present educational theories which direct our educators to treat their charges like little adults who can reason and process while ensuring that their personal space and feelings are not hampered by their lack of muscles, speed, looks, or intellect. However, when I look at folks who were brought up in the 50’s, 60’s and even the 70’s I don’t see a group of mass murderers taking their angst out on the small, weak, and unarmed.

    It’s not violent video games which drive loosers to pick up a weapon and kill little kids. Our generation was every bit as violent – we shot each other with BB guns, wacked at each other with sticks, threw fireworks into tents of fellow scouts late at night, and jousted with brooms and bicycles. We fought and wrestled and though we all carried Buck 110’s we would never have considered drawing it to finish a fight. We watched Saturday Night Wrestling and tried the head locks and body slams on each other. We watched Hee Haw and dreamed of finding Daisy Mae in a corn field without her big brothers around. Violence and Hormones aren’t a new concept. Teachers won’t discipline because it may upset little Johnny’s self esteem and parents won’t because the teachers will tell CPS and the kids will be put in a foster home. Sometimes progress is not necessarily a good thing.

    By the way, yes I played football (high school, not big enough for college), yes I married a pretty girl (red head to boot, though her daddy is a liberal union BHO loving pain in the rear), and no I didn’t start a Dot Com (but I have an idea for a perpetual motion machine involving cats with buttered toast duck taped to their backs).

    Happy Holidays to All, may you find peace and good will throughout your days, and may each and everyone have success, prosperity, and happiness in the New Year.

  • David

    Bravo……. I couldn’t have said it better. You guys need to take this info to Washington. At the very least forward it to the NRA where they can work this into their notes. All truths that need to be spread like wildfire. I for one am sharing this and thank you for everything you do.

  • Rourke

    More words of wisdom from Harry.

    Did you give those helicopters the one finger salute?

    Rourke

  • Rourke

    Thanks David!

    Merry Christmas.

    Rourke

  • Rourke

    LC –

    Thanks for the comments. Harry isn’t the only one who speaks words of wisdom.

    Thanks – Rourke

  • Harry

    Nope, too busy throwing cats at them. Of course with buttered toast taped to their back all they did was float in the air and spin. Besides, one finger salutes are rude and my mother would wack the crap out of me if she saw me doing that. She may be 83, but she carries a bongossi wood cane I picked up in Africa and it doesn’t give when it hits.

    David, I have sent this info to every Rep and Sen from Texas. Sometimes I get a form letter response, sometimes all I hear is the crickets chirping in the dark.

    The UK Mail in October 2009 reported that even with “draconian hand gun restrictions” firearm offences rose 89% in a decade. “In some parts of the country firearm offences have increased five fold” and “18 police districts reported gun crime had at least doubled”. The article noted that “officers armed with submachine guns are on routine patrol for the first time”. Hey Queen Liz, how’s that gun ban working for you?

    In 1973, Australia mandated that all handguns must be have a seperate and distinct license. From 1996 to 2000, Australia confiscated and destroyed over 660,000 banned semi-auto rifles and pump action shotguns. From 1996 to 1998, armed robberies rose 73%, armed assult rose 16%, and armed entry (breaking and entering while armed) rose 8%. Must be their penal colony ancestry – couldn’t have anything to do with criminals simply refusing to meekly turn in their firearms.

    When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Why is that simple concept so difficult for the average pol to understand?

  • John

    If we have to blame someone blame the media , going for an analogy here so stick with me . Has anyone here ever done manual labor ? Lets use digging post holes , the first few your hands hurt and become sensetive , you work through the pain , your hands become callused and it doesn’t hurt so much its just something to be endured . Well thats the way I feel , when I heard of this shooting it broke my heart , my youngest is a third grader . What did the media do ? 24/7 nothing else , if it bleeds it leads coverage , and what did that do to me ? It made me numb (my hands don’t hurt anymore) so I watch them (the media ) seem to deify this accident of birth and I know that there are people ready to copy him , just to get the same fame that seems to come to these abberations (and my hands harden , and its nothing more than labor to be endured ) Our society , and our 24 hour news networks nuture and create these people , I really , really hope that it is not something that I have to become callused toward but I fear it’s to late . And if I get to the point where I can ignore something like this ? Imagine what someone without empathy for others can do . Yeah , I wonder where they get that from ? Where do they learn that ?

  • John Gault

    Thought I would share this…….

    Guess our national leaders didn’t expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.
    They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness. The following is a portion of the transcript:

    “Since the dawn of creation there has been both good &evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.
    “The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain’s heart.
    “In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death. Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent
    I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy — it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You’ve stripped away our heritage,
    You’ve outlawed simple prayer.
    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question “Why?”
    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!

    “Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation’s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact.
    What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine’s tragedy occurs — politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws.
    Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

    “As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him.

    To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA — I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!
    My daughter’s death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!”
    – Darrell Scott

  • Rourke

    Mr. Gault –

    All I can say is…..”wow”. That is powerful.

    Rourke

  • John Gault

    I understand the idea, the belief that evil is the opposite of good, but perhaps it’s not that at all, maybe evil is in fact the absence of good. This absence leaves a void, a vacuous, empty nothingness that, left unattended will be filled by something other than the good that should exist there. Maybe evil IS the absence of good, the absence of God.