Interesting question from reader……

 

This was sent in from reader – Regina. Feel free to comment with your thoughts.

 

From time to time, as I talk to other folks, prepping and SHTF topics arise. Usually, most have ideas about survival similar to mine, although once in a while, someone will say it’s foolish to worry about such things. But a couple months ago, I was talking to a 45 year old nephew of mine who is a Christian and an excellent family man. His response to extreme survival situations made me stop and think. He said that he would just as soon die from whatever calamity happens (we’re talking end of the world scenarios here where civilization may or may not return to normal, not situations in which normalcy will be back in a matter of weeks or months) than to live in the ensuing chaos.

                I guess my mind set is , if there’s the slimmest chance of survival, count me in! What took me aback by my nephew’s statement is the fact that he is an excellent hunter, enjoys being outdoors, and has developed many skills that would give him a better chance than most (especially me) to survive and thrive during a back to the 19th century event. But my nephew said he would rather be in Heaven than battling the forces of nature and/or mankind at its worst.

                So, am I wrong in assuming that the majority of people would choose to survive at all costs? Heaven is paradise! Why should anyone want to hang around here on earth and possibly live through hell?

                I’m looking forward to viewing the responses from this site’s posters, who seem to be survivalists by nature.

 


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22 Comments

  1. Regina, I have often told myself during tough times that these bad days will allow me to appreciate how good the good days are when I reach them, and no matter how bad things were, I always reached those good days.

    Your nephew’s life is made up of many chapters (just like the rest of us). Everyone suffers through a few bad chapters in their life’s story. It would seem an awful shame to close the book before its been fully written, the ending might surprise him… It would be a shame for him to miss it.

  2. While I have no clue what your nephew’s life path has encountered, I would share with him that prepping IS Biblical…Proverbs 27:12

    “A prudent person foresees the danger ahead and takes precautions.

    The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.”

    I would share that with your nephew…While God will ultimately care and provide for us, we do need to be able to take care of our families in the meantime…and if that means a tornado, job loss, temporary power outage, whatever…I put my faith in Him, but I will do what I need to do in the meantime to take care of mine…

    I will admit, I am confused, given his skill set you present, it sounds like he is likeminded…but perhaps he is at a low time in his life and would rather ‘give up’…I would stay close and encourage him spiritually to realize we are all in for a rough ride…yeah, I’d like the easy way out too…But again, I am preparing for rough times, and I know that in the end, He will take care of us…but He is also expecting me to provide until that time…

  3. I suspect that if things get really extreme that what I want won’t be an issue. I am likely to die or be killed off, so not my problem. However if I am one who survives my survival instinct will kick in and I’ll do my level best to stay alive. It would certainly be much easier to do so with advanced preparations in hand. And I really would not be prepared to go if I had children, or grandchildren in my case, who were dependent on me. If they are still living then I have to stay alive to be an anchor for them until they can go it alone. Autobiographies show the immense importance of having an elder as an anchor during difficult times with young children. To do this however means we need to be resources for our community, not dependents using up more than our share.

  4. “He said that he would just as soon die from whatever calamity happens (we’re talking end of the world scenarios here where civilization may or may not return to normal, not situations in which normalcy will be back in a matter of weeks or months) than to live in the ensuing chaos.”

    If he’s made preparations that should allow him and his family to survive a couple months of very hard times, that’s pretty good and far better than most. The odds of a civilization ending event happening in any one person’s lifetime is incredibly slim. I try to consider the survival angle in most of my decisions, whether it’s the choice of a major appliance/home/car, a new hobby, or classes/training, but some preparations we could make are just incompatible with the way we want to live our lives. Raising livestock being one example, have the time and the space for it, but won’t do it. Maybe his “just as soon die” comment is just his way of acknowledging that he knows he could do more, but he’s not ready to put the time, money, and effort into preparing for catastrophic, but low probability, events?

  5. My bf says the same thing because he is a type 1 diabetic, and he things in a survival situation, he would be a drain on the rest of us. He doesn’t consider that his skills alone, let alone his sparkling personality 🙂 would be an asset to any group. That being said, any time he’s been in a situation where life and limb has been in mortal danger, he’s fought hard to live, so I thing that instinct will trump opinion when kick comes to shove.

  6. Having thought the same thing as your nephew, for me it is more an expression of faith than the desire to not prepare for the worst. When it gets that bad, being taken will be better than some of the alternatives. I think we realize that as we get older and don’t have the physical ability to survive (I’m 61). That doesn’t mean I don’t have food stored and have tried to develop skills over the years that could keep me and anyone with me alive, but there is a reality to accept as well that becomes more and more evident as I can’t get around as well as I’d like. I would like to be able to help my grandchildren survive it, but their survival, like everyone else’s, will be dependent on how well they’ve prepped BEFORE the disaster. I can be useful in that vein.

  7. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY! I will continue to learn/teach survival skills to family and friends. If millions die due to lack of preparedness and diligence, so be it. Those left behind will keep a written diary to be shared amongst the generations of the future, of a time that reshaped mankind. It will be tough initially, but with strength, prayer, faith, and a community spirit, many will survive and replenish. Let those who do not prepare or give up initially perish. No drain on society or handouts given. Let the Morlocks take them.

  8. We all know that prepping takes many forms and follows many paths. Where the most of us choose to stockpile our goods and hone our crafts, other prepare for eternity. Our Christian beliefs are based upon free will and I’m ok with that. As for your nephew – His choice, his path, his right. Personally, I plan to live forever or else die trying. When it is time for God to take me, he surely can and will. In the meanwhile, I’m going to do what I can to stick around until that time comes.

  9. I admire his thoughts that he would rather be with God during such times but I think I would prefer to resist and struggle to continue living until the Lord calls me home.

  10. Most who would rather die than fight to live think seem to think death will come easy. They seem to think God will just smile on them and they will find themselves on the way to Heaven. That may not be the case.

    He may find himself facing situations where, if he fails to act, others may die or suffer horrible outrages. If he acts for good, he may improve the world, but he has to live to make things better.

    Just giving up and waiting to die seems more like a form of suicide to me, which won’t gain him a place in paradise.

    I say fight until you cannot draw another breath. Work for the benefit of those you love and care about. Never ever consider giving up. The bad times cannot last forever, so work toward seeing the good times restored.

  11. I would have to ask him.
    Who will your family look to for guidance should you die when you are needed the most ?
    Then I would remind him that he doesn’t get to choose the time, God does.
    I think most successful preppers will end up with more than their families depending on them.

  12. Life is 100% fatal, prepped or not.
    People make choices and I respect his.
    There is a good chance in a WROL situation he may be the first at your door wanting a handout.

  13. So, would he then take his family with him so they didn’t have to live in the ensuing chaos? Where does this “excellent” family man thinks that leaves them? Myself, I think he needs to re-examine his Christian values. It certainly doesn’t sound to me like he has much faith in either his own or God’s abilities. Sorry to be so harsh but I’ve heard people say similar things without considering the repercussions of such a defeatist attitude. I don’t believe God wants any of us to just give up. No, living in such a world would not be easy but what if Jesus had just given up and said sorry God the task you’ve given me? Well, it’s just too hard.

  14. I can understand the nephews feelings. We are as prepared as we can be but if a nuke goes off then the chances of survival are nil .I would probably pray and drink water but let death come as rapidly as possible rather than linger.Lets face it folks none of us know what we would do until the time comes.
    My sister who lives with us shares your nephews sentiments.To each ones own.God bless us all- we need it. Arlene

  15. I am both a Christian and a prepper. The joy of Heaven is an inviting prospect. But alas, I am human and cannot do anything but my utmost to survive. I believe it is what God wants me to do. He will take me when it is my time. Until then I choose to fight as hard as I can… Warmest regards….

  16. Regina,Perhaps your nephew has not considered just how subjective survival is depending where in the world one has the fortune to be living today. Life is a gift, perhaps not so appreciated equally by all. But though I am a senior & therefore somewhat passive survivalist, my admiration for the movement regardless of the manifistaion is the strength of will this group has to survive & maintain a future for themselves & therefore the human race. Life is not for everyone, & history has proven the strong will evolve & survive. You can please share with you rather naive nephew as I have said so often, that I sit here today because 250 years ago right here in Florida less than 600 souls survived 10 years of forced labor, provided with nothing, no clothing, no food, no shelter,no medicines & watched as 900 of there friends & family perished with no alternative but the will to live & survive. Just simple Farmers from the Mediterranean who rose up to defend there right to live & be free. When the opportunity came during the American Revolution had they not done so there descendants would not be granted the gift of life today & all the happy tourist who just love to come to our shores to play would not have had anywhere to go. I would not be sitting here at a computer 250 years later in the exact same spot they struggled every day. Tell your nephew I thank God every day they had such fortitude & tell him the next time he walks outside & breathes fresh air to thank God because had they not survived there never would have been my 2 sons that fought in the military to keep him safe & free as have most of those that came after. If a Local Disaster, World War or Global Event destroys his World he should thank God for offering an alternative to disaster & change & to take his hat off to evey survivalist he sees, because the fate of the our children & future generations will always be in there hands.

  17. Death may be the preference, but it may not be what one is given. Suicide is a sin in almost any branch of Christianity and seeing bad times coming and choosing to die instead of struggling to live could certainly be considered suicide.
    People of the modern west live in a bubble because life without extreme hardship for the majority is a very short and recent phenomenon. What most would consider deprivation and hardship is normal life for almost everyone in our past and in large portions of our world today. Do you think that the African peasant would really notice an EMP strike? If the USA was returned to a nineteenth century existence many would die no matter what, but many could survive with the proper knowledge and skills. Would it be Christian to choose death and withhold that knowledge and skills from those who need them?
    Someone who would rather die than experience a nineteenth century lifestyle seems pretty weak. Christians didn’t give up and die when Rome fell apart and that was a very hard time.
    Christians are required to let God set the conditions and lengths of their lives,to live properly and prudently, to care for and defend their families and communities. In hard times this is even more important.
    Feeling that one would rather pass on the trouble to come is a very understandable emotion, even Jesus withed to pass on crucifixion. Does that make it the proper thing to do?

  18. I think many are misinterpreting what the nephew is actually saying? I didn’t read it as saying he would choose suicide over life. I just think he has a pretty good idea of how bad things can be in an civilize ending event. Think of the movie “The Road”. Who would choose living like that over a quick death? Eventually your supplies, medicine and ammunition WILL run out.

    As to “not being very Christian” comments, maybe he lives truly trusting in God’s will? Prepping, like many things in life, is our way of maintaining some sense of control over our lives. If we fully trusted in God to provide for all our needs, like it says in the Bible, how differently would our lives be? Imagine if all the money spent on insuring one’s own survival was shared to better one’s community as a whole? Wouldn’t that be more Christian?

    I do believe it is our responsibility to be accountable for ourselves in the world. I also believe that if things got so bad we were back to the Dark Ages…the “lucky” ones would be those who went the first and fastest. You may survive, but living with the memories would be something I don’t think many plan for?

  19. As a Christian, I believe that the LORD is in ultimate control of all things. . .having said that, I do not believe He wants us to roll over and die without even trying to survive. Nowhere in the Bible have I read that we are to give up. we are to carry on until He calls us. Paul desired to depart this life, but accepted it was God’s will for him to survive even though it meant spending time in prison and suffering. are we better? We have a responsibility to those dependent on us to continue on as long as we can. it seems cowardly to do otherwise. . . . just my two cents. . .

  20. Wow! Thanks for all the input. I will say that I don’t think my nephew would commit suicide. I think he meant that, say, in a nuclear attack, he would just as soon God would take him in the blast. Again, thanks.

  21. The blast didn’t take everyone at Hiroshima, nor Nagasaki. While we may be preparing for a nuclear war, or maybe a tribulation preceding a majestic and wondrous return of The King, we may also simply see a subtle downturn that takes us into what will be known for centuries from now as the True Great Depression. We could also suffer from a solar flare or EMP series of blasts that throw us back into the 1700’s.

    As Christians, preparing is not optional, and there are many Biblical accounts for doing such. Look to the Old Testament, which had some very good guidelines that Christians have forgotten over the years. Storing for 7 years, etc. Take care, and remember that we are also instructed to inform, but if they won’t listen, dust off your shoes, and move on.

  22. Wow!!! This post and the comments have been fantastic…made me think i knew what i would say in response, but then the fabulous replies stopped me in my tracks. SO many facets of this gem of a situation/question coming to light as i read on. As a senior”quasi-prepper”-i have always had the thought of my children/grandchildren in mind. Yes…must admit that eternity in heaven is our final goal and as i grow older and more loved ones wait there, it becomes more enticing. In fact, if we REALLY comprehended the reality, i think we would be “jumping line” to be there sooner…if we were made that way. We aren’t….God has hardwired us to survive. Thank You Regina for posing a hard question and for everyone else creating a different facet to consider in our quest to “be found ready” while still on this journey of life. Looking forward to more ideas…..

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